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Subject: Re: C++ Not Ready for Commercial Use
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Date: 20 Oct 89 09:50:30 GMT
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jima@hplsla.HP.COM (Jim Adcock) writes:

>Can anyone give any examples of someone who has been programming in C++ for
>more than a couple of months who would willing program in any other language,
>let alone any other dialect of C?

Yes, me. I am a romantic person. For a long time I have been undertaking the
quest for the ideal language.  Realism tells me that it probably doesn't exist.

As a result of this quest I started to use C++, about four years ago.
I have used C++ for over three years. At both institutes I worked during
this time, I ported and installed the AT&T translator (release E .. 1.2).
I have used C++ for OOP as well as just a better C (with argument and
typechecking).

IMHO, for both projects, C++ proved to be far more useful then C.
Conclusion: C++ is `better' then C.
Wrong conclusions: C is bad/C++ is good.

In my quest for the ideal language, I kept looking for alternatives.
Last year I started using Eiffel, which comes a lot closer to the ideal
language. I will go on using it, until something `better' shows up.

                                 Jos Warmer
				 jos@cs.vu.nl
				 ...uunet!mcvax!cs.vu.nl!jos

P.S. Everything depends on your personal definition of the "ideal language".
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