Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uflorida!novavax!twwells!bill From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: ambiguous ? Message-ID: <1989Oct19.225004.20120@twwells.com> Date: 19 Oct 89 22:50:04 GMT References: <11318@smoke.BRL.MIL> <14090@lanl.gov> Organization: None, Ft. Lauderdale, FL Lines: 23 In article <14090@lanl.gov> jlg@lanl.gov (Jim Giles) writes: : From article <11318@smoke.BRL.MIL>, by gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn): : > The proposed ANSI Standard for C leaves the order of argument : > evaluation unspecified, thus it depends on the implementation. : > This is indeed the way it always has been. : : If they had meant that the behaviour was simply implementation defined, : that's what they would have said. The standard SPECIFICALLY separates : the concept of implementation defined from the concept of unspecified : behaviours. Perhaps this silly argument will go away when the participants realize that they are arguing over the difference between implementation *dependent* and implementation-*defined*? The former is descriptive and has no special meaning; the latter is a special term defined in the standard. Check back and I think you'll see that Doug did not say that this was implementation-*defined*. --- Bill { uunet | novavax | ankh | sunvice } !twwells!bill bill@twwells.com