Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!mit-eddie!bu-cs!ckd From: ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu (Christopher Davis) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: Bitnet gateways? Message-ID: <40422@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Date: 15 Oct 89 02:14:22 GMT References: <31808@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <1989Oct14.143903.4299@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> Sender: daemon@bu-cs.BU.EDU Reply-To: ckd@bu-pub.bu.edu (Christopher Davis) Organization: Boston University School of Management Lines: 50 In-reply-to: ahd@image.soe!clutx.clarkson.edu's message of 14 Oct 89 14:39:03 GMT From article <31808@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, by wisner@mica.Berkeley.EDU (Bill Wisner): > You seem to misunderstand. UUNET is not a network. It is not an > interchangeable term for 'the UUCP network.' It is one specific > machine performing one specific service. On 14 Oct 89 14:39:03 GMT, ahd@image.soe!clutx.clarkson.edu (Drew Derbyshire,,,9143397425) said: Drew> :soapbox. Drew> Well, then they should drop off the internet, or refuse to be added to Drew> the maps. Well connected systems which exist to perform mail delivery Drew> end up general gateways, unless they explicitly restrict mail delivery Drew> channels. Which they have so far not done--not that they haven't thought of it, or been tempted to do it. Overuse of this sort of thing will probably cause them to start bouncing mail. [Disclaimer: I don't work there. I've never met anyone who works there personally. I *have* used their anonymous ftp service, at extremely off-peak hours...(college student hours, y'know :-) and I'm sure I've kicked a goodly number of Kbytes of postings into their newsfeeds. I'm sort of the anti-Sy Sperling of UUNET: "I'm not the President of the company--I'm not even a client."] Drew> My personal understanding of UUNET was that it was not limited to Drew> 'customers' but rather served as a not-for-profit backbone (along Drew> with other sites) for UUCP; like any good backbone, it is well Drew> connected and in a practical sense encourages good mail (i.e. by the Drew> fastest route). Drew> UUNET's offer of anonymous ftp service clearly strengthens this, if Drew> it wants to be known as UUCP host rather than a generic mail server, Drew> it should drop the internet oriented services. Given that they are already paying for the Internet connection ($4000/month) to improve service for their customers, their offering of ftp services and the like is reasonable (and much welcome, by me). Drew> I LIKE UUNET the way it is. Agreed. Let's help keep it this way by not sending all our mail that's "too hard to route" to them. Drew> :Esoapbox. Drew> Drew Derbyshire -- Christopher Davis, BU SMG '90 "Technology is dominated by those who manage what they do not understand."