Xref: utzoo comp.music:174 rec.music.classical:9117 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!ferret!sandell From: sandell@ferret.ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.classical Subject: Re: Computer research in Schenkerian analysis Message-ID: <1325@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 18 Oct 89 15:03:49 GMT References: <5013@orca.WV.TEK.COM> Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Reply-To: sandell@ferret (Greg Sandell) Organization: ^ Lines: 45 In article <5013@orca.WV.TEK.COM> steveb@eve.WV.TEK.COM () writes: >I have long been contemplating writing software that can analyze tonal music >via Schenker techniques. Every time I attempt to scope out the problem I seem >to increase in complexity by an order of magnitude. I am looking for folks who >have attempted to tackle this problem. Specifically I am looking for >collaborators but I would be happy to start with references in the literature. >I am also looking for information on potential file formats and encoding >schemes for the input side. Any information would be extremely helpful. > >Steve >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >FROM: STEVEN C. BILOW -- Software Engineer, Tektronix >EMAIL: steveb@orca.WV.TEK.COM PHONE: (503) 685-2463 >USMAIL: P.O. Box 1000 61-028, Wilsonville, OR 97070-1000 Stephen Smoliar, no stranger to the net (esp. rec.music.classical) has an article titled "A computer aid for Schenkerian analysis," COMPUTER MUSIC JOURNAL 4/2, 41-59. Another item is by James Snell (1979), "Design for a formal system for deriving tonal music," but you will find it practically impossible to find since it is a Master's thesis (State University of New York at Binghamton). Lerdahl & Jackendoff's A GENERATIVE THEORY OF TONAL MUSIC (MIT Press, 1983) contains a hierarchical theory of music which is Schenker-like in flavor. One particularly nice thing about the approach is that the rules are fairly explicit, which lends itself more to a computational treatment than raw Schenker theory. I think the problem is well worth working on, although as you say, it will be very complex. The fact that music theorists frequently disagree as to what consititutes a `correct' Schenkerian analysis shows that much of the theory is arcane and implicit. (By the way, you can always tell if someone is a truely devoted follower of Schenker if they use the word `correct' alot in their writings.) My advice, for what it's worth, is to pick a very simple musical domain (e.g. early 18th century minuets) and try to acheive success there first. Good luck, Greg Sandell *************************************************************** * Greg Sandell, Institute for Learning Sciences, Evanston, IL * * sandell@ferret.ils.nwu.edu * ***************************************************************