Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!wuarchive!psuvax1!psuvm!uh2 From: UH2@PSUVM.BITNET (Lee Sailer) Newsgroups: comp.object Subject: Re: My OOPSLA '89 Report Message-ID: <89289.101317UH2@PSUVM.BITNET> Date: 16 Oct 89 14:13:17 GMT References: <608@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu> Organization: Penn State University Lines: 21 >Their Eyes (OITE) panel, and in particular Bill Joy, "let COBOL _and_ >COBOL programmer have it right between the eyes." In effect, Bill Joy >said that "COBOL programmers are incapable of learning object-oriented >concepts." This brought to mind E.W. Dijkstra's famous quote: > One thing to consider is that *we* are all interested in new concepts and new ways of doing things. That is, we attend conferences, read journals and books by the dozen, and even hang around the computer late at night in order to read this newsgroup. On of the most depressing statistics I've seen lately (in Computer Language, I think) is that the average number of technical books that a professional computer analyst/programmer/engineer reads in a year is about 3/4 of a book. When you consider that the readers of a group like this probably average 10--50 books per year, that figure becomes truly ... I teach MIS in an MBA program. Every term I get two or three local DP professionals. They are smart enough to learn things other than COBOL, but they won't, because they refuse to.