Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!eru!luth!sunic!tut!tukki!sakkinen From: sakkinen@tukki.jyu.fi (Markku Sakkinen) Newsgroups: comp.object Subject: Re: What is OOP? Message-ID: <1524@tukki.jyu.fi> Date: 17 Oct 89 07:19:38 GMT References: <1208@skye.ed.ac.uk> <5065@omepd.UUCP> Reply-To: sakkinen@jytko.jyu.fi (Markku Sakkinen) SAKKINEN@FINJYU.bitnet (alternative) Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland Lines: 32 In article <5065@omepd.UUCP> merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal Schwartz) writes: >[...] >"Ada is PL/1 trying to be Smalltalk" > >(no flames back please... either like it, or don't! :-) No flame, just some education: Ada's basic design and philosophy is clearly different from the "featurism" of PL/1 (while even PL/1 was in many ways an admirable effort for its time). Ada tries least of all to be Smalltalk: it is just as unfit for very dynamic "exploratory programming" as Smalltalk is unfit for programming embedded real-time systems for space flight. A little aside: do we object-orienters tend to be some kind of Stalinists, always looking out for "class enemies" like Ada and COBOL to liquidate? Have our own languages and systems not enough merit, so we must scorn others? (I think Ed Berard wrote about this in his recent report on OOPSLA'89.) >Just another SmallTalker, stuck in this UNIX-compatible world... >[...] Dispair not, you can already have Smalltalk on many of those UNIX-compatibles. Markku Sakkinen Department of Computer Science University of Jyvaskyla (a's with umlauts) Seminaarinkatu 15 SF-40100 Jyvaskyla (umlauts again) Finland