Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!cernvax!ethz!ethz-inf!wyle From: wyle@inf.ethz.ch (Mitchell Wyle) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Global Cultural Prototype Summary: commie plot Message-ID: <3814@ethz-inf.UUCP> Date: 16 Oct 89 08:50:56 GMT References: <3366@ccnysci.UUCP> <2145@avsd.UUCP> <18291@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <1989Oct13.142526.13122@uncecs.edu> <1489@intercon.com> <1989Oct15.142457.9248@uncecs.edu> Reply-To: wyle@ethz.UUCP (Mitchell Wyle) Organization: ETH Zurich Lines: 38 dgary@ecsvax.uncecs.edu.UUCP (D Gary Grady) writes a couple of articles defending and expounding the virtues of esperanto. An Hungarian who knows a little Esperonto told me that the early East European communists wanted Esperonto to be a universal language, to spread the word, make the world safe for communism, etc. With commies as political proponents, it's no wonder the USA doesn't like Esperonto. A language professor also offered me the following argument against Esperonto: Supposing everyone in the world spoke it, and we could all communicate with each other in Esperanto. Now suppose you want to visit (for example) the Loire castle area of France. In order to understand the culture and *REALLY* communicate well with the natives, you will *STILL* want to speak French with them. Esperanoto will never communicate cultural subtleties, especially with common folks. >Yes, there are now quite a number of native ("denaskaj") Esperantists, I'll bet there are more people speaking Romansch or !Kung. Adding yet another (artificial!) way of isolating people from each other may not be the correct road to world peace. When the Esperanto proponents went to Trotsky for support, he said that the world already had an international langauge: Russian. I personally am very bad at foreign languages; I don't like learning them. However, I am about to learn yet another langauge (Italian) in order to communicate with more of the people with whom I have daily contact (our cleaning lady, hotel waiters). These people do not speak any of the languages I speak (French, German, English, a couple of others). Therefore, I am tasked with learning their langauge. I do not do it because I enjoy learning languages, but because I want to communicate. I have never seen the need to learn Esperonto. I speculate that some people like languages, learning them, practicing, etc. These people might even be the majority, but I doubt it. Oh well, 'nuff said. Cheers, -Mitch