Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!pantor!richard From: richard@pantor.UUCP (Richard Sargent) Newsgroups: comp.sw.components Subject: Re: Schedule and budget are secondary Message-ID: <24.UUL1.3#5109@pantor.UUCP> Date: 13 Oct 89 14:46:20 GMT References: <9670@attctc.Dallas.TX.US> Organization: Pansophic Systems Inc, Graphics Product Company Lines: 43 > From: phil@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (Phil Meyer) > Message-ID: <9670@attctc.Dallas.TX.US> > Date: 11 Oct 89 22:10:39 GMT > > In article <6742@hubcap.clemson.edu> billwolf%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu writes: > >From rcd@ico.ISC.COM (Dick Dunn): ... > > A professional will meet cost and schedule > > constraints by using CASE tools, advanced programming languages, > > and so on, using overtime as the last resort. > > This last line is the killer. If you don't work your butt off, you don't > work for me! If the job needs doing, you stay 'till it's done. What is this? > Bankers ethics in the computer center? Forget it! You've got to be joking! Sweatshops went out of fashion in the last century! It is true that entrenpreneurial companies and start-ups require long hours of the staff/owners, but sensible employers plan for their staff to be still alive and functional so that they can do the next project. Staff distracted/unhappy/etc. from divorces/miserable homelives/etc. or burned out, etc. are poorer producers than those who aren't. Whether the burnout takes 6months, a year, or two isn't germane. Turn-over is *very* expensive for companies If a company can't budget a project to avoid burning out its staff, it is in long-term trouble. There certainly circumstances where the 6 month project just has to be done in 3 months, but if that is company policy, you'll lose a lot of people. *I* work to live, not live to work. I am fortunate to work in a field that I enjoy. If my employer tried to make 16 hour days a policy, I would switch to working for a bank faster than you could say "boo". (They pay better and the fringe benefits are nice - low interest and a pension plan, for starters. :-) Enough said. I fully realize there as many rebuttals possible as there are circumstances for everyone out there. This is my opinion: you don't have to agree nor even like it. Richard Sargent Internet: richard@pantor.UUCP Systems Analyst UUCP: uunet!pantor!richard