Xref: utzoo comp.os.minix:7620 comp.sys.ibm.pc:36659 comp.unix.xenix:8134 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucsd!nosc!crash!pnet01!jca From: jca@pnet01.cts.com (John C. Archambeau) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.unix.xenix Subject: Re: dosread.c again Message-ID: <565@crash.cts.com> Date: 21 Oct 89 22:36:05 GMT Sender: root@crash.cts.com Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA Lines: 46 cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes: >This posting is really the definitive statement of disdain for DOS. >"My knowledge of DOS is zilch, and will stay that way." For anyone >to make such a statement, along with the contempt shown in the rest >of the posting, provides all the evidence needed that elitism has >a lot more to do with DOS-hatred than anything else. AST isn't the only one that hates MeSs-DOS. Meet another 'DOS hater' here and most of our claims for hatred of MeSs-DOS are very well justified considering its fatal flaws. It took how long for Micro$haft to break the 32 Mb problem with DOS? And I'm not even sure that 4.x does it all that well either. Now everybody is trying to break the 640K memory problem, well, it ain't going to happen because of the fact DOS was designed around an 8086 address space. Big bucks are in it for ANY company that makes a 100% (not 80%, 90%, or 95%) compatable 386 protect mode implementation of DOS. They are close with things such as VP/ix, but it's not close enough. I personally think that DOS will be chucked eventually since it doesn't even utilitize the power of a 386. >I'm sure that if DOS weren't used by COMMON PEOPLE, the DOS-haters >would make appropriate criticisms of the many very real deficiencies >of DOS, and leave it at that. But as long as someone can learn to >use a computer without devoting years of their life to it, the >DOS-haters will remain filled with irrational hatred. I know a lot of common people who will use *nix before even turning on an IBM clone/compatable. My boss only uses his IBM AT with a 40 Mb hard drive as a rolodex under SideKick. My boss' partner doesn't even like the letters IBM and is about as technically minded as Dan Quayle is informed of the state of the union and he prefers *nix based systems. Hell, I have to kick him off the SPARCstation 1 just for routine file system maintainance. DOS for common people? Maybe in the past and possibly the present, but now we have chips out there that DOS can't even push to the limit because of its design flaws. If I ever manage to get Bill Gates' business card, it's going on my dart board. ;) /*--------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Flames: /dev/null (on my Minix partition) *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* * ARPA : crash!pnet01!jca@nosc.mil * INET : jca@pnet01.cts.com * UUCP : {nosc ucsd hplabs!hd-sdd}!crash!pnet01!jca *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Note : My opinions are that...mine. My boss doesn't pay me enough to * speak in the best interests of the company (yet). *--------------------------------------------------------------------------*/