Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!marc From: marc@Apple.COM (Mark Dawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: SE question Message-ID: <35681@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 16 Oct 89 14:25:18 GMT References: <50037@<1989Oct2> <8400174@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <1989Oct12.231203.15676@NCoast.ORG> <670@wet.UUCP> Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA Lines: 29 In article <670@wet.UUCP> tempest@wet.UUCP (Ken Lui) writes: >In article <1989Oct12.231203.15676@NCoast.ORG> allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: >... >>(Why do Macs use variable speed drives? Because 400K floppies are that much >>nicer than 360K floppies (SS/DD), and 800K better than 720K (DS/DD). (Do >... > >It's interesting that you brought this subject up because a >friend of mine has an IBM PC, and is using a program that >reformats DS/DD disks to 800K and (either 1.2Mb diskettes --> 1.44Mb >or 1.44Mb diskettes --> 1.6Mb). So, it's possible to get the >extra capacity with just fixed-speed drives. Given this >situation, is there a program or is it possible to patch the >MacOS to give us increased storage capacity? > >BTW, that program is only needed to format the diskette, and once >formatted, any drive can read it. I always thought this variable >drive speed was nice--400K on SS 3.5s and 800K on DS 3.5s--until >I learned that the Amiga gets 880K on DS 3.5s. > I believe its a function of the disk controller chip. Kennect's Rapport device can get 1.2mb on DSDD 3.5" disks using a section of Apple's SWIM chip. Apple's old IWM disk controller chip just couldn't handle it. If you don't have a variable speed drive, to get some of the high densities (like the 1.2mb format), you need to be able to vary the data rate on the disk controller chip. I believe the IWM doesn't support variable data rates, while the SWIM does. Mark