Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!purdue!decwrl!adobe!bezanson From: bezanson@adobe.COM (Brian Bezanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: ATM (Adobe Type Manager) Problems Keywords: Adobe ATM Type Message-ID: <1321@adobe.UUCP> Date: 16 Oct 89 23:12:57 GMT References: <45@fleet.UUCP> Reply-To: bezanson@adobe.UUCP (Brian Bezanson) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View Lines: 47 In article <45@fleet.UUCP> mel@fleet.UUCP (mel) writes: >While our user group was given a preview of ATM (Adobe Type Manager) we >noticed that type had somewhat irregular spacing between letters in all >of the word processors that we tested it with. The same text placed into >Pagemaker looked fine. Printed output did reflect the same spacing >irregularities as shown on the screen - meaning Pagemaker's output was >fine but the word processors kept the erroneous spacing. This isn't a problem of ATM, but more a limitation on applications. If you use programs like FullWrite, PageMaker, WriteNow, XPress, MacWrite II 1.1, Word 4 (except on the imagewriter), and a few others that use fractional width spacing (recommended by Apple since the MacPlus first appeared), everything looks great. Older versions of Word, Write, MORE II, etc... don't use fractional widths and rely on a simpler placement of text. If you take a pixel and scale it out 12 times, you could assume that taking it's width and multiplying by 12 would work/look fine - which is basically what QuickDraw scaling does. With ATM (and later with System 7), you get back a more precise font. Part of that precision is that the width isn't just a multiple of a smaller size (i.e. a 12 point m, that was 6 pixel wide before, at 72 points it isn't 36 pixels wide (6 width x 6 enlargement) - it is really 31 pixels wide). The application using non-fractional widths will use the old width information, and you'll get these spacing gaps. Those that use fractional widths will appear correctly. If you would take a sample of a page done on one of your 'problem' word processors and print it out with and without ATM, hold the two pages on top of each other and in front of a light. You'll see that the characters are laid down in the same spots, their widths are physically different because one is the jaggies scaled up and the other is outline, but the application receives width information identical whether ATM is on or off. In this case you'd like the spacing of the jagged text, with the quality of the ATM text. The solution is to use an application that supports and uses fractional widths. Hope this answers your question. ---- On a similar note: to all of those users who have sent me direct mail with questions regarding ATM (and there were more than a few) - thanks for asking and I hoped I answered your questions. I sent out answers to every question I received. If you sent one to me, but never received an answer - my apologies. I sent a few responses to net-land as a whole and the others I tried every way I could, but our mailer kept rejecting some and they never made it. If you still have an open ATM question, send it to me again with some alternate access paths or if the question is of general knowledge, post it here.ATM shipped today, so we can start looking for questions/reactions from the real users of ATM. -- Brian Bezanson bezanson@adobe.com Adobe Systems Incorporated The opinions expressed above are my own and may not represent those of Adobe.