Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!tank!shamash!nic.MR.NET!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: SE question Message-ID: <1989Oct19.230656.10686@NCoast.ORG> Date: 19 Oct 89 23:06:56 GMT References: <50037@<1989Oct2> <8400174@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <1989Oct12.231203.15676@NCoast.ORG> <670@wet.UUCP> Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) Followup-To: comp.sys.mac Organization: North Coast Public Access UN*X, Cleveland, OH Lines: 43 As quoted from <670@wet.UUCP> by tempest@wet.UUCP (Ken Lui): +--------------- | In article <1989Oct12.231203.15676@NCoast.ORG> allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: | ... | >(Why do Macs use variable speed drives? Because 400K floppies are that much | >nicer than 360K floppies (SS/DD), and 800K better than 720K (DS/DD). (Do | ... | | It's interesting that you brought this subject up because a | friend of mine has an IBM PC, and is using a program that | reformats DS/DD disks to 800K and (either 1.2Mb diskettes --> 1.44Mb | or 1.44Mb diskettes --> 1.6Mb). So, it's possible to get the | extra capacity with just fixed-speed drives. Given this | situation, is there a program or is it possible to patch the | MacOS to give us increased storage capacity? +--------------- I doubt it, since it's probably a limitation of the IWM. The new SWIM chip in the FDHD-equipped Macs might be able to handle it. PCs get 400K/800K/etc. by increasing the number of sectors per track from 9 to 10. The Mac, if I recall, uses variable sectors per track as a result of its speed diddling. This is the reason why most other machines don't understand Mac disks. +--------------- | BTW, that program is only needed to format the diskette, and once | formatted, any drive can read it. I always thought this variable | drive speed was nice--400K on SS 3.5s and 800K on DS 3.5s--until | I learned that the Amiga gets 880K on DS 3.5s. +--------------- Chances are the Amiga pushes the limits on the disk's capabilities: for example, on many PClones you can get 42 tracks of 10 sectors (420K) on a nominal 360K disk. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc allbery@NCoast.ORG uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@hal.cwru.edu bsa@telotech.uucp 161-7070 (MCI), ALLBERY (Delphi), B.ALLBERY (GEnie), comp-sources-misc@backbone [comp.sources.misc-related mail should go ONLY to comp-sources-misc@] *Third party vote-collection service: send mail to allbery@uunet.uu.net (ONLY)*