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From: johnte@microsoft.UUCP (John Terranova)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: MPW target market
Summary: I use MPW on a Mac+
Message-ID: <8066@microsoft.UUCP>
Date: 16 Oct 89 16:49:13 GMT
References: <4743@internal.Apple.COM> <16153@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU>
Reply-To: johnte@microsoft.UUCP (John Terranova)
Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA
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In article <16153@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> erics@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Eric Schlegel) writes:
>In article <4743@internal.Apple.COM> chewy@apple.com (Paul Snively) writes:
>>In article <16124@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> erics@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Eric 
>>Schlegel) writes:
>>> THERE DO EXIST some people (such as me) who
>>> are lowly college students, who run MPW 3.0 on a Mac Plus...
>>
>>You have my DEEPEST sympathy!  How much memory is on your Plus??  If it's 
>>one megabyte, how do you COMPILE anything???

I started with TML Pascal way back in the old days when it was it's
own development system.  I upgraded a couple of times, then it became
integrated with MPW.  I upgraded again knowing full well that my poor
Mac+ had only 1Meg of mem (and still does!).  BTW: I upgraded to my
current development system while I was still in college (i.e. poor).

I have no problem compiling and linking my programs.  But then the one
I'm mainly working on is only ~1000 lines (but growing).  Time from
initiation of the build process to the "Save files..." dialog before
launching my program is on the order of 2 minutes.  It's not Lightspeed,
but then Lightspeed isn't Lightspeed, anymore.  :-)  (It's Think)

>My Plus has 2.5 meg in it - I'm looking forward to upgrading it 4 sometime
>soon, hopefully by Christmas. Small compiles actually aren't that bad, maybe

Small compiles in 1Meg aren't too bad, either.  Though I would like 2.5.

>Informal poll idea: I'd be interested in hearing from people on the net who
>use MPW. How many of you _are_ using in on Pluses/SEs? How many on II-class
>machines?

I don't use MPW for much serious work, but I do have a pet project at home
that I use it for.  BTW I use the TML Pascal compiler not the MPW Pascal
compiler, if that makes any difference to your informal poll.

>Eric Schlegel
>eric.schlegel@dartmouth.edu

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