Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mips:234 comp.sys.mac.hardware:34 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!bukys From: bukys@cs.rochester.edu (Liudvikas Bukys) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: Workstation speed comparisons Keywords: price, performance, MIPS Message-ID: <1989Oct19.153249.25491@cs.rochester.edu> Date: 19 Oct 89 15:32:49 GMT References: <12850@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Reply-To: bukys@stork.cs.rochester.edu (Liudvikas Bukys) Distribution: na Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Department Lines: 29 Or, try this on for size: (list prices as of last June) list $/MIP configuration price (specified 16MB memory, 19" mono monitor, 100MB local disk) ----- ----- 15996 1333 SUN 4/60 "12 MIPS", 16M, 19" mono, 104MB scsi disk 19291 1135 DG AV300 "17 MIPS", 16M, 20" mono, 179MB scsi disk 21684 1549 DEC DS3100 "14 MIPS", 16M, 19" mono+swivel, 104MB scsi disk 23000 1642 MIPS RS2030 "14 MIPS", 16M, 17" mono, 172MB scsi disk (The above prices may or may not be true.) DG has been advertising low cost per MIP, but that's for a machine with a ridiculously small memory. And you can't call up your favorite chip merchant to populate the machine at a decent price, because they use non-standard plug-in memory modules. (Same with DEC, though I've read that Clearpoint has DEC-compatible 2MB boards available now.) Also never forget to consider the other factors in total-cost-of-ownership: maintenance contracts, software update service, etc. SOME vendors offer attractive almost-flat fee software update service (at least for universities), others still think that you're happy to pay 30 times the update contract cost if you have 30 machines. SOME vendors include a license to run the software with the machine; some vendors charge EXTRA for that privilege ("steering wheel not included"). Also never forget the wonders of competitive bidding. Those are list prices up there, but amazing things can happen in a free market. Take list prices with a grain of salt. Some vendors have freedom to be creative.