Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!sunybcs!sbcs!bnlux0!adelphi!promark!mark From: mark@promark.UUCP (Mark J. DeFilippis) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: How do you tell a wizard? Message-ID: <227@promark.UUCP> Date: 21 Oct 89 01:11:12 GMT References: <1019@psc90.UUCP> <253E39D3.16055@ateng.com> Distribution: na Organization: Promark Data Concepts, Garden City, NY Lines: 35 I have worked with one flavor of Unix or another for several years, and to this day will not call myself a wizard. I have long felt it was a form of rationalization. Wizard implies "knows all", and Unix is ever growing with each release of the operating system. BSD flavors that meet SVID. System V with BSD extentions, different with every vendor. However, I have found the following holds true for most *very knowledegable Unix people* : 1 They have seen and/or modified Unix source at the kernel and provided utilities level. 2 They have implimented, at least once, a device driver, or some other kernel linkable code, and know how much fun it is to debug this code. 3 They all have at least one beat up copy of the C bible, possibly hard cover, or if not, the front or back cover is gone. 4 They have a copy of either the BSD or System V "Implimentation of the Unix operating system." 5 All the above books have pages that are starting to bio-degrade from age. 6 They have a copy of the SVID from AT&T if they work with SYSTEM V. 7 They all spell kernel as KERNEL, not KERNAL. 8 They don't call themselves wizards, but the people around them usually do. Each one of these alone does not constitute a wizard, especially 2, and 3. But In the case of 2, it has been my experience that if they have been there a few times, they know their way around pretty well. -- Adelphi University, Garden City, NY 11530 (516) 663-1170 Department of Mathematics and Computer Science markd@adelphi.UUCP or mark@promark.UUCP UUCP: uunet!mimsy!rutgers!columbia!adelphi!markd