Xref: utzoo alt.aquaria:4208 rec.pets:8739 news.groups:13278 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!chuq From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.pets,news.groups Subject: Re: Call of votes - sci.aquaria (sort of moderated) Keywords: vote early, vote often Message-ID: <35689@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 16 Oct 89 15:55:49 GMT References: <20986@gryphon.COM> Organization: Life is just a Fantasy novel played for keeps Lines: 40 >Whats the difference ? It turns out that sci goes to Europe >and rec, for the most part, doesn't. (rec, for example >doesn't go to Germany and Holland). >Now, this is probably for a reason, ie. they don't want the >volume, which is understandable. But to restrict a low volume, >high quality technical group like .aquaria from these countries >is less than desirable. >I propose then, to move alt.aquaria to sci.aquaria to ensure >world wide distribution. On the other hand, if rec.aquaria really *is* as good a group as you claim it is going to be, the Europeans should have no trouble convincing themselves that it's worth adding to the newsfeed, like they have for other useful groups outside of comp.* and sci.*. This is not a good reason for warping the name space. Aquaria belongs in rec. In fact, this kind of argument is self-defeating -- if sci.aquaria goes through just to get european distribution, then you can bet that other groups are going to try the same ploy. Once you set that precedent, you're simply going to open the door to making sci the same kind of domain that soc or rec are -- and force the europeans to consider whether a full feed of sci is really a good idea after all. I strongly suggest a no vote on sci.aquaria. This should be a rec group. If sci.aquaria fails, I will immediately call for a vote on either rec.pets.aquaria or rec.aquaria to create the group in the proper name location. I strongly suggest that the net turn down Richards proposal and wait for the vote to create the group where it belongs. If the Europeans really want it, they can get it in rec. -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> Editor,OtherRealms <+> Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com <+> CI$: 73317,635 <+> [This is myself speaking] Anyone who thinks that the argument over {sci,rec}.fishies is about group names doesn't understand the system.