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From: jwi@cbnewsj.ATT.COM (Jim Winer @ AT&T, Middletown, NJ)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.pets,news.groups
Subject: Re: Call of votes - sci.aquaria (sort of moderated)
Summary: You are unacceptable as a pseudo-moderator
Keywords: vote early, vote often
Message-ID: <1475@cbnewsj.ATT.COM>
Date: 17 Oct 89 14:36:07 GMT
References: <20986@gryphon.COM>
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
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> Richard Sexton writes:
> 
> Since there was no clear cut resolution on the name issue
> (public sentiment ran high against sci.aquaria in news.groups,
> and in favour of rec.aquaria, while in my mailbox the opposite
> was true, along with echos of ``I didn't want to post this 
> becasue I didn't want to get flamed'') I have decided to
> go ahead and call for votes.

If you had actually been reading news.groups, you would also 
have seen the series of articles that requested a multiple 
vote with several names. The idea was that a YES or NO vote could 
be made for each name. Then, if more than one name passed, either
the name with the most YES votes, the name with the least NO votes,
or the name with the most spread between YES and NO (or all of
them) could be further considered.

Many people indicated that they were in favor of this scheme.

You have chosen to ignore public sentiment by your own admission
(see above quote). I therefore feel that you will similarly
ignore my wishes as a reader of, and regular contributor to *.aquari*.

> I propose I will also act as an informal moderater in that
> the group will not be moderated, but I will keep a close
> eye on what is going around the world vs. what is kept
> within North America. Technical articles should be allowed
> to propogate worldwide. Requests such as ``what kind of
> fish go good with pearl gouramis'' should be kept within
> the continent.
> 
> If in 6 months (and 12, and 18) the number of non-technical
> articles with a Distribution: world line exceeds twenty five,
> the group will become moderated. Probbaly with me as moderator,
> although I have no problems with anybody else doing it.

If I can get mail through to you, you will receive my NO vote on
sci.aquaria. Please do not interpret this as a vote against
becoming a mainstream group or even as a vote against a specific
name for this group. Please interpret it as a vote specifically
against you as a pseudo-moderator. Based on your performance in
this matter, I do not feel that your interests coincide with my
interests. I further do not feel that your "offer" to "volunteer"
as a pseudo-censor are in the best interests of *.aquari*.

You will never, under any circumstances receive my vote as censor.
You have demonstrated your insensitivity.

Jim Winer -- The opinions expressed here are not necessarily
	     and do not represent nor in any way imply
	     of any other sane person and especially not
	     employer.
"I'd like to see this petty bickering ended so we could get to some 
more important bickering." -- David Bedno