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From: jay@splut.conmicro.com (Jay "you ignorant splut!" Maynard)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,news.groups
Subject: Re: Call of votes - sci.aquaria (sort of moderated)
Message-ID: <2949@splut.conmicro.com>
Date: 18 Oct 89 14:20:12 GMT
References: <20986@gryphon.COM> <2604NMBCU@CUNYVM> <2684@cpoint.UUCP>
Reply-To: jay@splut.conmicro.com (Jay "you ignorant splut!" Maynard)
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In article <2684@cpoint.UUCP> alien@cpoint.UUCP (Alien Wells) writes:
>Despite your apparent lack of appreciation (the TASS comments below), Richard
>really is trying to come up with a compromise that will satisfy the critics
>afraid that sci.aquaria will attract a new wave of novices that will flood 
>Europe with 'sick guppy' articles that will turn off European system managers
>to the point where they yank the Usenet plug totally.  Unfortunately, there
>are always people who are 'morally offended' by compromises.

This "compromise" doesn't address the main bone of contention: that a
hobby group doesn't belong in sci. Some compromise.

>Europeans are the acknowledged experts in aquaria (and yes, they do call them
>aquaria).  To be perfectly clear:
>	Europe is to aquaria as the US is to software

If this is so, it would stand to reason that the management at mcvax
would pick up rec.aquaria, since they do get some selected rec groups.

>This is not a case where we are happy hobbyists wanting more happy hobbyists
>on line.  This is a case where we have a legitimate need for advice and 
>contact with a group of people that cannot be reached any other way.  

If the need is that great, then the folks in Europe would have no
trouble bringing the group over. Even if it was talk.aquaria.

>Richard's compromise is an attempt to reach them while addressing the concerns
>that some people have about other rammifications of the naming.  If you were
>basing your arguments on reason instead of religion, you might have seen that.

...and a poor attempt, at that. This group simply doesn't belong in sci.
It belongs in rec, like other technical hobbies, such as rec.aviation,
rec.ham-radio.*, rec.autos.tech, ...

>--------|	You've got the political savvy
>Alien   |		of a hangnail.
>--------|   					- John Meneghini

So, apparently, does Richard Sexton; he stuck to his guns in the face of
overwhelming opposition. Calling his current proposal a compromise is
like calling planting a shrub in a slum major urban renewal.

-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL   | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jay@splut.conmicro.com       (eieio)| adequately be explained by stupidity.
{attctc,bellcore}!texbell!splut!jay +----------------------------------------
   Send richard@gryphon.com your NO vote on sci.aquaria; it belongs in rec.