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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: Another proposal for modified voting rules
Message-ID: <14984.253c5b22@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Date: 18 Oct 89 16:14:42 GMT
References: <372@enea.se>
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
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In article <372@enea.se>, sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
> First the name supervisor(s). (I think there should be more
> than one, but not more than 5-6 people.) When a group is
> proposed with what they think is an inappropriate name,
> they have the right to dictate that what they think is a better
> name should be considered. This is implemented so that the
> call for votes must cover both names and give them equal
> attention. (Assuming that Greg Woods is one of the supervisors,
> they have control of news.announce.newgroups.)

Unfortunatly, I doubt that this scheme would work for the present aquaria
conflict.  I seem to be seeing 3 major camps, the sci.* people, the
rec.aquaria people, and the rec.pets.* group.  Recently, there has also been
some interest shown in misc.*.  Frequently, just two choices aren't enough.

> The advantage with this system over STV and the one proposed by
> Bob Sloane is that it is much simpler.

Hmmm. "Simpler" is tricky thing to pin down.  How is "Yes to Both" simpler than
"Yes to any name?"  Your scheme is "simpler" in that it restrict the choices to
only two names.  What else does it "simplify?"

>   It can be used to resolve sci/rec.acquaria issue, but it cannot
> be used for resolving the discussion we had about comp.object.

My scheme would have worked for either.

> I think the point with the name supervisor is important. Without
> that we can sit here say TALK.whatever. The group champion will
> still call for votes on sci.whatever, and too many would vote in
> favour, since they care more about the group than the name. With
> this model, they would at least get an alternative.

This is the problem I was trying to avoid.  In my scheme, the vote taker would
call for votes on a particular topic, as stated in the charter, not for a
particular name.  The name for the group would be decided by the vote.
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