Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!rice!brazos.rice.edu!bbc From: bbc@titan.rice.edu (Benjamin Chase) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Proposal for changes to the newsgroup creation guidlines. Message-ID: Date: 18 Oct 89 20:16:55 GMT References: <14718.2538b6f4@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <14980.253c557f@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Sender: root@rice.edu Reply-To: Benjamin Chase Distribution: na Organization: CPRC, Rice University Lines: 40 In-reply-to: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu's message of 18 Oct 89 15:50:39 GMT Bob Sloane writes: >Hmmm. I specifically allowed for english language voting in the procedure I >wrote up. Perhaps I didn't make that clear. The vote: > "I think that any sci group should not be created, > but vote FOR any rec group." >would be OK. Well, I know one thing. _I'm_ not going to write or debug the program that counts votes. And I'm not sure I'll ever trust it. >> Let's compare two other schemes. First, the ballot elided above, written >> in Alien Wells' style: [...] >This would also be a valid vote in my scheme. I never said that you HAD to >use wildcards, just that you could if you wanted. The only real difference >between my scheme and Alien's is that I allow the voter to write in group >names, and allow (NOT require) a more concise way of specifying the votes. Ok. Great. >>[much about a preferential scheme of voting deleted] >I am not sure I understand how this works. Nope, you're missing it. Apparently, I need to construct a more elaborate example. > How is this proposal different than Single Transferable Vote? I'm not sure that it is, or in what way it might be. I missed that discussion, but from vague remarks made recently, I think that STV may be similar. Can someone send me a description of it? > Could you supply some sample votes and how to count them? I'll hold off on this until I hear what STV is. It may be instructive to compare and constrast preferential balloting with STV. -- Ben Chase , Rice University, Houston, Texas