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From: NMBCU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
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Subject: Re: Call of votes - sci.aquaria (sort of moderated)
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Date: 19 Oct 89 00:11:47 GMT
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In article <2684@cpoint.UUCP>, alien@cpoint.UUCP (Alien Wells) says:
>
>In article <2604NMBCU@CUNYVM> NMBCU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU writes:
>> <see below ...>
>
>Despite your apparent lack of appreciation (the TASS comments below), Richard
>really is trying to come up with a compromise that will satisfy the critics
>afraid that sci.aquaria will attract a new wave of novices that will flood
>Europe with 'sick guppy' articles that will turn off European system managers
>to the point where they yank the Usenet plug totally.  Unfortunately, there
>are always people who are 'morally offended' by compromises.

Okay then how about this for a compromise. Since Richard, you and all those
others that you referred to as critics, are all at a very experienced level
of aquaria-ism, and don't wish to be bothered by all us lowly novices who
are just starting out or who are not novices but yet not into aquaria-ism
as much as rich and the others are, you guys can have a moderated group called
sci.critics.aquaria or sci.aquaria.for.experienced.people.like.rich. Meanwhile,
we will create our own open (non-moderated) forum called rec.aquaria or
rec.something (whatever we lowly novices (who shudder the thought happen to
believe aquaria-ism is more of a hobby than a science) happen to decide on. :)

Note the smiley face, which is something you neglected to take note of below.

>> ... What is this
>> all of a sudden I'm living in a communist society. With big
>> brother watching over my shoulder. Where are we? In China? Who
>> are you, TASS? Spot any Aliens lately.
>
>Actually, Alien was number 5 in the Bandwidth Waster's Hall of Fame for
>alt.aquaria ...
>
>>P.S. - If the vote should pass. I think I will call for the discussion of
>>       rec.aquaria. An unmoderated group which would augment his group
>>       or put it out of business. :)
>>
>>"That may or may not be a joke sa-sa-son".
>
>Gee, haven't noticed you posting very regularily to alt.aquaria.

Thats right I'm a newcomer to the group, do you have a problem with that?
Maybe we should step outside. :)

> Do you
>honestly think that if you manage to create an alternate group and take your
>'wisdom' and 'experience' to it, that it will put us 'out of business'?

I never at any time in any of my postings stated that I had years of
experience with aquariums. Nor do I consider myself a wise old man.
A wise guy, perhaps :), but never a wise man with years of experience.
Apparently, you do not understand my sense of humor. Fair enough. Thats
hard to do via the net. I did put a smiley face on at the end of it, though.

I'll tell you this much, if his vote fails, and I feel confident that it
will (I base this on the negative response that I have read on the net
to his proposal), then I will immediately call for a discussion for
rec.aquaria (this was the name that scored highest among rec.* choices, in
that name poll that I took). I will hold the discussion for the usual
time rather than call for a new vote for another name. This will give
everyone time to re-think their positions. But I'm also doing this
because, I think the guidelines state that you have to wait 6 months
before another vote can be held, but since this group will have a
different name and a different charter (its charter won't call
for moderation and will allow aquarists of all levels of experience to
participate), I will consider it a call for a discussion of a new group.
The standard time period for discussion, will allow all those that have
participated in the discussion and/or vote to tell me whether what I plan
to do is really legal or not.

And then when everyone is done and the time period has passed, I will
go ahead and call for the vote anyway. :)

Why?

Because...

I'm a stubborn group champion, just like Richard. :)

                                                  Nelson
                                  "There's that id again" - Richard Sexton
                                                  Broat