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From: oleg@gryphon.COM (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: news.groups,alt.aquaria,rec.pets
Subject: Re: Re: Formal propsal: "rec.aquarium", not to be confused with "sci.aquaria".
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Date: 22 Oct 89 10:42:59 GMT
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In article <6829@hubcap.clemson.edu> rchampe@hubcap.clemson.edu (Richard Champeaux) writes:
>   Exactly what evidence do you have to back up your claim that Bryce has no
>interest in this newsgroup?  

I do not recall any tremendous contribution by Bryce Nesbitt to the exsiting
group, alt.aquaria.  That suggests to me that his interest is not in aquaria,
but in politicking.

>Why do you consider this blatant sabatoge.

Because in violation of the voting guidelines he uses to justify his
machinations, he calls for an interfering vote on a similar news group
without having gone through the 2-week discussion period.

>Someone has
>already mentioned that the sci.aquaria vote is already in violation of net
>rules because the discussion has gone on for too long.  I believe this same
>person has claimed that the sci.aquaria vote is no longer valid.  

That person was Bryce Nesbitt, I believe, and he was quite wrong about the
length of the discussion.  Quite self-serving.

>   No matter which hierarchy this newsgroup is in, it will still be oriented
>towards the hobbyist.

True.  The same is true, of course, for 90% of other SCI groups.  What does
that prove?  That sci.space should be rec.space or talk.space?

>The amiga is no more a toy than any other personal
>computer and it's actually more advanced than all of them.

Technical superiority does not make a machine any less of a toy.  An advanced
and sophisticated toy, but a toy never the less.

>Also, I played Tetris on a Sun 4 the other day.  

UNIX versions of Tetris (Sun version included) are not commercial products
and you'd be hard pressed to show that the majority of Sun workstations were
bought for the purposes of game playing.  Your example is irrelevant.

>Have you really ever used
>the word aquaria (speaking that is), or every heard it used?  Which would you
>say, "I have 10 aquariums" or "I have 10 aquaria"? 

Yes, I have.  It's not accidental that the original group, alt.aquaria, was
named that way.

>Chill out Oleg.  It doesn't really do any good to rant and rave.

Sometimes it's the only way to get through to the duller and more stubborn
minds.
-- 
			"No regrets, no apologies"   Ronald Reagan

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