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From: alien@cpoint.UUCP (Alien Wells)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: *real* change won't happen
Message-ID: <2700@cpoint.UUCP>
Date: 23 Oct 89 12:57:43 GMT
References: <1989Oct19.003117.809@everexn.uucp> <35808@apple.Apple.COM>
Reply-To: alien@cpoint.UUCP (Alien Wells)
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp., Hopkinton Mass.
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In article <35808@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>These folks were manipulating the net for reasons they weren't divulging. In
>some cases, they were people who were manipulating people who were
>manipulating the net and not saying *anything* in public at all, which is
>even nastier. (And they know who they are. And they now know I know. Hi, guy!)

Ah, let's get this straight so I know what I'm doing. I assume that since I 
have been posting, that I can't be one of the 'people who were manipulating 
people who were manipulating the net and not saying *anything* in public at 
all'.  So, am I supposed to be one of the people being '[manipulated into]
manipulating the net', or one of the people 'manipulating the net for reasons 
they weren't divulging'?  I really would like to know.  PS:  If I'm being
manipulated, would you please let me know by who?

I am someone who was in favor of putting .aquaria into rec. until I was
talked out of it (not manipulated) by the sci. crowd.  Your conspiracy 
theories look like paranoid delusions from here.

And I find your comments about the 'lack of flaming' to be rather telling.
I've found there to be vastly more flaming (especially in the anti-sci.
camp (which I contrast with the rec. camp - which I used to be part of and
which I have much more respect for)) than I would have liked to have seen.
I would have unsubscribed long ago (because of the flaming) if I didn't feel
I HAVE to stay here until the voting is concluded.

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--------|	You've got the political savvy
Alien   |		of a hangnail.
--------|   					- John Meneghini
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