Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!shadooby!ginosko!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!luth!sunic!dkuug!iesd!iesd!fischer From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars P. Fischer) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: rec.music.rock Message-ID: Date: 25 Oct 89 02:47:11 GMT References: <399@enea.se> Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News) Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Aalborg Lines: 43 In-reply-to: sommar@enea.se's message of 23 Oct 89 23:12:01 GMT In article <399@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes: >But what is rock'n'roll? What is not? Do we all agree on what is >rock'n'roll? Or could be that some people think that Madonna, that's >rock'n'roll, while others object heavilly and say "Madonna!!! that's >not rock'n'roll, that's disco junk!" Your argument goes something like: "We can't split music into `kinds', so let's have it all in one group". Well, it's true that kinds of music is not very well defined, but there *is* some broad groups of things that are easy to recognize. Mozart and Berry *are* different. The difficulty starts when we get down to "disco", "heavy", ... That's why I'm against 37 rockish newsgroups. "It's all r-n-r to me". Analogy: rec.music.classical works fine (no Madonna postings there :-). If we has rec.music.baroque, rec.music.avantgarde, etc, etc, it would not work. No, we do not all agree on what r-n-r is but we all have a general understanding of the semantics of the term. We'll all agree that Bach, Armstrong, and Libyan mountain singers does not fit. There'll be some hard cases (Weather Report) and some flames about that, but that is, alas, the way of the net. > Or what about an artist like >Frank Zappa that does both rock, jazz and classic? Perfect Stranger is classical. Joe's Garage is rock. So what? If you want to discuss his rock work, post to a rock group. Likewise for classical. If the *person* becomes a topic on its own, create a newsgroup for it (rec.music.gaffa is not about music at all, it's a religious group discussing their messiah :-). Summary: rec.music.misc (like any misc group) should be for the rare things that does not fit anywhere else. Mainstream topics, like r-n-r, should have a group on their own. Therefor, let's have a group, rec.music.rock-n-roll for the kinds (note the "s") descending from Chuck Berry, e.g. rock in the broad sense of the word. /Lars -- Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | Seek error on /dev/brain (core dumped). CS Dept., Univ. of Aalborg, DENMARK. | -- (null)