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From: tale@pawl.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: C news penetration
Message-ID: <1989Oct13.220948.570@rpi.edu>
Date: 13 Oct 89 22:09:48 GMT
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Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
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In <8910121231.AA17253@image.soe.clarkson.edu.> nelson@IMAGE.SOE.CLARKSON.EDU
(Russ Nelson) writes:
Russ> [article without Lines: header, path:]
Russ> image.soe.clarkson.edu!rpi!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1![..BITNET..]

Russ> The implication is that all these sites are running C news, or
Russ> some other news software that doesn't write Lines: headers.

Right; as John later points out the BITNET nodes are running software
which doesn't add Lines:.

In <1989Oct12.165913.18364@brutus.cs.uiuc.edu> coolidge@brutus.cs.uiuc.edu
(John Coolidge) writes:
John> Actually, that's not right. Neither B nor C news actually adds
John> on Lines: headers as far as I know.

B News does add it; if it isn't there, it will be when it hits a B
News site.  Until we set up the brutus connexion, we had not really
gotten any postings without Lines:.  Now the only ones I get without
it are all from BITNET sites downstream from John.

John> I'm not sure what rpi is running (they haven't responded to my 'version'
John> control yet).

C, as of mid-September when I finally found out that all my grief was
being caused by hard-coded, incorrect pathnames in the bottom of
batch.c, provided by Jean-Francois Lamy.  (_Why_ did you commit such a
sin, Jean-Francois?  I was about ready to kill when I found that. :-/)

I never saw your version message, and I "read" control.  Odd.

One other interesting thing in all of this is that I think we are
seeing a case of the non-dying groups here.  John will apparently
carry any group any of his feeds carry, and I'll carry nearly anything
in our regional distributions and alternate hierarchies, but I
delgroup'ed alt.sex.beastiality as soon as it showed up.  It will not
be carried here, but since the brutus connexion was made I've got it
heading for junk.  Russ probably has it at his site too (whether he
wants it or not) because C News insists on propagating it.  I put
!alt.sex.beastiality in my sys file, yet it still shows up.  I did
this in accordance with Geoff's article:

In <1989Oct4.234355.3680@utstat.uucp> geoff@utstat.uucp (Geoff Collyer):
Geoff> If you really want to drop articles in certain groups, and ignoring
Geoff> cross-posting for now, you must either write "!unwanted.group" in your
Geoff> sys file subscription list, or you must change the flags field of
Geoff> "unwanted.group" to "x" (see news(5)).

So now am I required to also add this group to my active file and give
it an 'x' flag?  Blech.

Dave
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