Xref: utzoo sci.bio:2401 sci.chem:567 sci.med:12957 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!sunybcs!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.chem,sci.med Subject: Re: PAM propellant Summary: Use of CFC's as propellants... Message-ID: <3446@kitty.UUCP> Date: 15 Oct 89 15:06:55 GMT References: <1989Oct14.012606.13102@utzoo.uucp> <12770@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 41 In article <12770@boulder.Colorado.EDU>, eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder) writes: > >Ok. Here is what is on a can of PAM for sale in Toronto, in the > >ingredients list. Sounds delicious ;-). > >| Ingredients: > >| trichlorofluoromethane.... > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Excuse me, are these statements compatible? Trichlorofluoromethane is about > as prototypical a chlorofluorocarbon as there is. Canadians have a lot of > nerve complaining about acid rain if they still haven't banned CFC's in > such products. I am just as surprised as you are, since it is my understanding that Canada banned CFC's as propellants some time ago. However, there may be some alternative explanations which I have seen in other instances: (1) the can may be _old_ stock which had somehow surfaced; (2) the can may be an old lithograph version which would not reflect the current composition, although such use would certainly be in violation of product ingredient disclosure requirements; (3) the maker of Pam may be exploiting a loophole in the CFC ban, in that the CFC is claimed as a solvent, NOT a propellant. The latter situation may well be true, at least in the case of trichlorofluoromethane (a/k/a Fluorocarbon 11). Trichlorofluoromethane does not boil until around 75 deg F, so it is often a liquid at room temperatures. The vapor pressure of trichlorofluoromethane is too low for it to be used as a propellant by itself, but it has been used in combination with other CFC's to create a mixture with particular vapor pressure and solvent characteristics. CFC's have also been mixed with alkane hydrocarbon propellant gases to achieve particular propellant characteristics. In any event, as was clearly pointed out on the Canadian label, Pam contains both isobutane and propane as its propellants. My opinion of Pam, its previous "safety" record notwitstanding, is that this material used around a stovetop is an accident waiting to happen. <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp. - Uniquex Corp. - Viatran Corp. <> UUCP {allegra|boulder|decvax|rutgers|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> TEL 716/688-1231 | 716/773-1700 {hplabs|utzoo|uunet}!/ \uniquex!larry <> FAX 716/741-9635 | 716/773-2488 "Have you hugged your cat today?"