Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!bellcore!att!cbnews!military From: dee@linus.mitre.org (David E. Emery) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: re: prior service Message-ID: <10230@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 14 Oct 89 01:56:16 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Lines: 43 Approved: military@att.att.com Full-Name: David E. Emery From: dee@linus.mitre.org (David E. Emery) It's very interesting to hear J.D. Baldwin say that "In five years of commissioned service, I have seen little to bolster the idea that prior enlisted service makes one a "better" officer." For a good argument for such service, see Wilson's new book _Mud_Soldiers_ (the same guy who wrote _Supercarrier_). I spent 3 (of 4) years in a military school (Norwich), and found it to be a big help once I got on active duty (Army). I learned several things, including some of the tricks used in Basic Training for motivating people, how to survive in the system (e.g. the value of "backchannels" for getting things done), and I also had to face the problem of less-than-motivated troops (not everyone at Norwich was gung-ho.) The one year I spent away from Norwich (junior year at Bucknell U, why is another story...) demonstrated just how ill-prepared the average ROTC cadet is in many respects for active duty. Credibility is very important, particularly as a platoon leader, and most ROTC graduates have to learn what EM's are all about. This is also true of West Point officers, in my experience. West Pointers understand better how the mechanics of the military work, but I think were less capable with dealing with the collection of small personnel problems that take up so much of a junior officer's time. ROTC officers were, in general, better at handling these problems, but were unsure of themselves as leaders. If I were king of the world, I think that maybe I'd require both ROTC and West Pointers to serve as squad leaders for a basic training/AIT unit. This agrees with Wilson's recommendation. The advantage would be for the cadets to gain practical leadership experience and also get a chance to work with troops. If the cadet doesn't work out well as a squad leader, then we can determine this before spending a heluva lot of money on his Officer Basic course education. dave emery emery@aries.mitre.org p.s. any other Norwich grads out there on the net?