Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!bellcore!att!cbnews!military From: dee@mitre.org (David E. Emery) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: ARMY UNIT DESIGNATIONS....... Message-ID: <10239@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 14 Oct 89 01:56:30 GMT References: <10147@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: Mitre Corporation, Bedford, MA. Lines: 45 Approved: military@att.att.com From: dee@mitre.org (David E. Emery) mes@tellab5.tellab5.CHI.IL.US (Martin Swinney) asks about Airborne unit numbers. You have to distinguish between Parachute Infantry Regiments and units on jump status. The former is a title, the latter is a mission. The original Parachute Infantry Units (originally battalions) started with number 501 (Of Geronimo fame). They run at least through 509. The 325 infantry was not Parachute, but Glider Infantry. Hell, the original members of 325 weren't even on jump status (since they landed in gliders, supposedly "safe".) The Ranger Battalions are just that, Ranger Battalions. During WWII they were not part of 75th Infantry. I'm not sure why the 75'th is associated with the Rangers. The same is true of Special Forces. The odd-ball is 187 Infantry. I think this unit was originally straight-leg infantry and later converted to Airborne. They kept their designation. The 50x units were 'new' units during WW II. Note that the 82 division was a leg division when WW II started, and was so when Omar Bradley commanded it. > remember MILITARY / INTELEGENCE (sp) they don't fit together. But that doesn't say anything about Military Intelligence Overall, the U.S. combat arms regimental system has received considerable attention over the years. There may not be a direct reason for unit numbers, but there IS a reason. Every unit has its lineage and honors, usually posted in its headquarters, and there are books that explain the origin of the unit. >an old S.F.er just wanting to set the record straight.... Do you know the heritage of the Special Forces, related to the First Special Service Force? If not, someone missed something in your S.F. training. dave emery CPT, FA, NHARNG (associated with 3-325 Inf (Abn) as a cadet, FO for A/1-501 Inf (Air Assault) on active duty)