Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: gwh%earthquake.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: M-16 reliability (was Re: early bad press may be justified) Message-ID: <10308@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 18 Oct 89 02:48:31 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 30 Approved: military@att.att.com From: gwh%earthquake.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) In article <10259@cbnews.ATT.COM> cmr@cvedc.Prime.Com (Chesley Reyburn) writes: >In article <10181@cbnews.ATT.COM> gt0818a%prism@gatech.edu (Paul E. Robichaux) writes: >>... (just don't get me started on the Beretta 92F!) > >Please do comment. I am curious about this weapon's abilities, >reliability, etc. Is it a piece of junk? Is it able to leap >tall buildings at a single bound? It works fine. There have been 5 (five) structure failures out of ~150 thousand guns, all of which have been traced to the US Army's use of REAL HOT 9mm ammo, which is way outside the commercial specifications. There is a structural redesign in the works to change failure modes to noninjuring ones. Common army tactic, btw: if the ammo breaks the gun, redesign the gun :) [mod.note: To which I'm sure many readers will respond, "wouldn't it have been better to design a gun to handle the specified ammo ?" Seems to me that there must be a NATO standard for 9mm, that being, supposedly, why we dropped the .45. Does the US use a more powerful load ? - Bill ] **************************************** George William Herbert UCB Naval Architecture Dpt. (my god, even on schedule!) maniac@garnet.berkeley.edu gwh@ocf.berkeley.edu ----------------------------------------