Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: gwh%earthquake.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Caseless ammo Message-ID: <10312@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 18 Oct 89 02:48:48 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 25 Approved: military@att.att.com From: gwh%earthquake.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) In article <10262@cbnews.ATT.COM> wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr) writes: >I've heard various hints and indications that there exists something >referred to as "caseless" ammo or rounds. Does anyone know anything >about the general specifications of the stuff? (Assuming, of course, >that the rumours that I've been hearing, which sprouted out of a >discussion of the movie "Aliens," have any substance.) Yup. It's quite real. The propellant is a solid based on RDX high-explosive. There have been development projects going on since mid-1960's in this. Ther German Army (West) is about to (any year now...) deploy as its standard weapon the G-11 rifle, using a caseles 4.9mm round. It has been delayed by propellant stability problems. The material is RDX with lots of stabilizers. Formed (in G-11 ammo) into 9mm square by ~50mm long blocks with the bullet surrounded by propellant in the round's front. **************************************** George William Herbert UCB Naval Architecture Dpt. (my god, even on schedule!) maniac@garnet.berkeley.edu gwh@ocf.berkeley.edu ----------------------------------------