Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!att!cbnews!military From: ssc-vax!shuksan!major@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Mike Schmitt) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: early bad press may be justified Message-ID: <10371@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 19 Oct 89 03:33:13 GMT References: <10178@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: The Boeing Co., BAC MMST, Seattle, WA Lines: 57 Approved: military@att.att.com From: ssc-vax!shuksan!major@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Mike Schmitt) In article <10178@cbnews.ATT.COM>, gwh%typhoon.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) writes: > The Abrahms M-1 and M-1A1 (120mm sans 105mm main gun) are now fairly > reliable. Except for certain problems inherent with moving a tracked > vehicle as fast as the M-1 moves, it's as reliable as any other Main > Battle Tank. There were some breaking-in problems, but those have > been ironed out. I was with the 3rd Infantry Division (Mech) in Germany when we received the first shipment of M1 Tanks. Yes, there were break-in problems... yes, it was a gas=guzzler, yes, it overheated, yes it broke track frequently, yes it would throw a track to the inside. Yes, the crews loved it! As soon as the crews figured out the tank wasn't designed to compete in the Indy 500 - they settled down and drove it like a tank (even tank battles evolve more slowly then you'd expect). Tanks require lots and lots of maintenance. As we gathered statistics on maintenance per hour of operations - it was common to have to conduct 3 hours of maintenance for every 1 hour of operation. The cost of operating a tank (fuel, oil, parts) was something like $15 an hour. Compare this to a 2 1/2 Ton truck: 1 hr maint for 5 hrs operating/$5 hr. Or to an M113 APC (one of the most maintainable tracked vehicles in the world): 1:1 maint/opn $6/hr. And one of the biggest budget items in Mech or Armor Divisions is new track. Now, what that translates to is 4-5 days of manuever training requires about 1-2 weeks of maintenance on a tank. And that's the biggest complaint of tank crews - they are either on the gunnery range or in the motor pool. Within a couple years - for the first time - a US crew in an M1 tank won the NATO Tank Gunnery competition (I forget the name) which in the previous years had always been won by the Leopard II. US Divisions in Germany were still receiving the M60A3 (Rise/Passive) tanks - mainly the Cav Squadrons - yet, the new M1 was THE TANK, everything else was a 'dinosauor'. Warning Order: Tank Attack "Hot chow, and dry socks, hey didddle diddle right up the middle, and don't trust the sonovabitch on your flank." major