Newsgroups: comp.arch Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: ATTACK OF KILLER MICROS Message-ID: <1989Oct23.165911.564@utzoo.uucp> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <35825@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <1081@m3.mfci.UUCP> <35896@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <33798@ames.arc.nasa.gov> <35977@lll-winken.LLNL.GO <27203@dhw68k.cts.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 16:59:11 GMT In article <27203@dhw68k.cts.com> stein@dhw68k.cts.com (Rick Stein) writes: >...no university in the U.S. teaches how to create linear scalable >software, the cornerstone of multicomputers. Until the shared-memory >s/w engineering styles are abandonded, no real progress in multicomputing >can begin (at least in this country). Europe and Japan are pressing on >without (despite us).> What remains to be seen is whether they are pressing on up a blind alley. Remember where this discussion thread started out: the mainstream of high-volume development has vast resources compared to the more obscure byways. Results from those byways have to be awfully damned good if they are going to be competitive except in ultra-specialized niches. As I've mentioned in another context, "gonna have to change our whole way of thinking to go parallel real soon, because serial's about to run out of steam" has been gospel for quite a while now... but the difficulty of that conversion has justified an awful lot of highly successful work on speeding up non-parallel computing. Work which is still going and still succeeding. I'm neutral on the nationalism -- you're all foreigners to me :-) -- but highly skeptical on the parallelism. -- A bit of tolerance is worth a | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology megabyte of flaming. | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu