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From: yahoo@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Kenneth L Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.lsi.cad
Subject: Re: Where do I get Magic, etc. for Sun4
Message-ID: <20352@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 30 Oct 89 19:34:42 GMT
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Reply-To: yahoo@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Kenneth L Moore)
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In article <6124@pitt.UUCP> shorty@jupiter.UUCP (Saverio Fazzari) writes:
>Hi,

==>	I am working in testing digital designs done using MAGIC ver 4
==>	on sun 3's

==>	what is the best switch level simulator for Cmos circuits
==>	and why?
==>	I want to determine delay times for them, right now I am using
==>        crystal but a extraction of resistance from magic is not very good
==>        what is the best way to do it , or is there a better tool out there?
==>	please mail any replies directly
==>				Thanks
==>				shorty@ee.pitt.edu

Try Cosmos. It will do such things as XOR's. 

I wrote a master's thesis titled "VLSI Resistance Extraction: A
Multi-Algorithmic Approach".  The resulting resistance extractor, which
works with Magic, is slow.  Also, because it needs some work (about
3 weeks to construct make files, etc.), I am not prepared to release it.

In most cases, you are probably better off estimating resistance.
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                   yahoo@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Kenneth L Moore)
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