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From: steve@thelake.UUCP (Steve Yelvington)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.sys.ibm.pc,news.misc,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Waffle PC<->Usenet Announcement #1
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Date: 29 Oct 89 15:56:24 GMT
References: <3618@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>
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In article <3618@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>,
     dell@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Thomas E. Dell) writes ... 

>Did someone say PC<->Usenet software?
>
>There have been a LOT of questions about PC<->Usenet software lately.
>To date the only option has been to run Ufgate, which requires running
>other Fido software. I won't say what my opinion of Fido software is.

UFgate is/was not the only option. At least two versions of Citadel have been
running Usenet news and UUCP mail on personal computers for a year or so.
One is STadel, a shareware product for the Atari ST and IBM PC-clones.
The other is Citadel-86, a free PC-clone BBS for which Paul Gauthier has
written a UUPC gateway.

Incidentally, the STadel <--> UUCP software also can be used in
conjunction with a separate program that lets STadel network via Bix.

There also are a couple of Un*x versions of Citadel, and I believe one of
them knows how to speak the Citadel proprietary networking protocol.

I have a strange setup. I run STadel as a personal node -- not as a BBS --
so that I can keep up with several STadel-networked discussion "rooms." 

I also run Dale Schumacher's UUMAIL, a separate UUCP-compatible mail
program for the Atari ST, and have a home-brew gateway program move mail
between them. 

For Usenet news, UUMAIL is the transport mechanism, and I've written an
rnews (unbatcher) and a postnews utility. John Stanley's UUREADER provides
the (very nice) user interface.

      Steve Yelvington, up at the lake in Minnesota        
  ... pwcs.StPaul.GOV!stag!thelake!steve             (Usenet)   
  ... {playgrnd,moundst,class68}!thelake!steve       (Citadel)