Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!netxcom!netxdev!kcr From: kcr@netxdev.DHL.COM (Ken Ritchie) Newsgroups: comp.object Subject: Re: OO Case tools Summary: Complete C (tm) has Logical Debugger, nice syntax! Keywords: symbolic OO debugger, OO C tools, Complete C (tm), OO CASE Message-ID: <1989Oct24.222033.12077@netxcom.uucp> Date: 24 Oct 89 22:20:33 GMT References: <13307@athertn.Atherton.COM> Sender: Ken Ritchie Reply-To: kcr@netxdev.UUCP (Ken Ritchie) Followup-To: comp.object Organization: NetExpress Communications, Inc. Lines: 43 In article <13307@athertn.Atherton.COM> jimb@athertn.Atherton.COM (Jim Burke) writes: > >...regarding the lack of reasonable tools to aid in oo software >development. I'd be interested in hearing about any such tools... >in the Objective-C world, there still does not exist a symbolic debugger... > >Jim Burke - consultant (408) 734-9822 >{decwrl,sun,hpda,pyramid}!athertn!jimb Try using Complete C (tm) from Complete Computer Corporation, which has a nifty LOGICAL DEBUGGER, with tracing, breakpoints, and inspection -- at the message selector, receiver, and object levels. They have a shareware edition for MS-DOS (use Borland or Microsoft C compiler), and reasonably priced ($500) commercial grade packages for MS-DOS, XENIX, and a growing list of other OS's! BTW, they have a Documentation Generator, included in the commercial packages. I've played with the shareware package, and I LIKE IT! What's REALLY NICE is the SYNTAX! It's VERY CLEAN and SO ELEGANT it's "obvious" (in hindsight). It is C, with Smalltalk-ish message expressions grafted in with "[ ... ]" which is VERY NICE TO READ (AND WRITE)! But if you botch up the code, their Logical Debugger is ready to assist you in peering into the running system! The principal developer, Seth Copen Goldstein, is a long-time Smalltalk-er who wanted a way to port his systems over into compiled targets. You can learn a lot just by reading the "Foundation Class" object source code. Complete Computer Corporation (212) 582-2635 voice 111 West 57th Street (212) 397-1580 FAX New York, NR 10019 (212) 956-4535 BBS DISCLAIMER: This is a voluntary endorsement from a self-appointed fanatic! _______________________________________________________________________________ Ken Ritchie (aka KCR) Usenet: ...!uunet!netxcom!netxdev!kcr NetExpress Communications, Inc. 1953 Gallows Rd, Suite 300 FAX: USA (703) 749-2375 Vienna, Virginia (USA) 22182 Voice: USA (703) 749-2268 "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein Disclaimer: We have over 100 people here, and each one has an opinion or two... _______________________________________________________________________________