Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!lll-winken!arisia!sgi!shinobu!odin!zamna.sgi.com!wicinski From: wicinski@zamna.sgi.com Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: New Host-Requirement RFCs Message-ID: <1136@odin.SGI.COM> Date: 26 Oct 89 23:47:23 GMT References: <8910201839.AA29376@arcturus.mitre.org> <1989Oct23.173855.1370@utzoo.uucp> Sender: news@odin.SGI.COM Reply-To: wicinski@zamna.sgi.com () Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 38 In-Reply-To: In article you write: >I have to disagree, Henry. If the problem is reaching unregistered >sites, the solution is to register them - somewhere - I'm not sure I >care where. NIC-registered domains are fine, comp.mail.maps UUCP >registration is nearly as fine in a practical sense; other registries >exist, but those are the two I deal with most. Sorry dude, but i have to disagree. To say "register your domain" is easier said than done. As someone who has registered his own .COM domain, (not sgi.com) after growing tired of .US domains, it is NOT trivial. If you're not connected to the Internet, you dig up a uucp connection (no problem), then you fill out all the NIC forms and try to comprehend the catch-22 (do you need a network #, well you need a domain. you need a domain? you have someone to sponsor you? etc, ad nauseum). THEN you have to go around and grovel at people who have MX nameservers to see if they will put in records for you (luckily i found two people who did), and then MAYBE if the net dieziens decide you are "okay", they give you a domain. Sure, you could pay uunet 35 bucks for almost the same thing, but their forms are just the NIC forms redone, and they stay make you look for the nameservers yourself. >Getting registered is easy. Building a gateway is easy. They're both >too easy to go to the effort of avoiding the issue with things like % >hacks. Becoming registered is NOT easy. Getting connected is not a simple task either. If you really want people to "join your network" there should be a place where the rules are laid out CLEARLY (the nic is helpful in general, but not that awesome), and perhaps there could be a place where people can go look at past registrations to get an idea (that's the main bitch), AND if there was some place joe geek who wants to register his pc with a .COM domain can go look for a list of people who will be willing put an alias in his/her nameserver for them, THEN MAYBE it might become easier to join, and then we can do away with the damn % hack. tim