Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!wupost!dranet!sean From: sean@dranet.dra.com (Sean Donelan) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: MXing the world (was RE: New Host-Requirement RFCs) Message-ID: <299@dranet.dra.com> Date: 30 Oct 89 15:17:00 GMT References: <8910201839.AA29376@arcturus.mitre.org> <1136@odin.SGI.COM> <1156@odin.SGI.COM> <71081@uunet.UU.NET> Organization: Data Research Associates, St. Louis MO Lines: 42 In article <71081@uunet.UU.NET>, rick@uunet.UU.NET (Rick Adams) writes: > > I dont know how much more simple you can make it than "leave #4 alone" Simple don't put #4 on the form. I think there are several problems with trying to MX-the-world to eliminate the %-hack and other forms of explicit routing. 1. It is impractical, if not impossible. One of the readers of this list has most likely written the definitive routing paper to date (or at least included it the bibliography of the paper they did write), why routers can't have universal knowledge of the network. Trying to minimize when one has to resort to explicit routing is fine, prohibiting explicit routing is something else. Security and other policies will most likely require the limitation of explicit routing at the cost of lower connectivity. But that is the purpose of those security and other policies (to lower connectivity). 2. Politically, and adminstratively the Internet is difficult to deal with by non-Internet (though possibly gatewayed) networks. And "acceptable use" policies make it necessary to route through an "acceptable" route. The choice of these two (or more) routes must be determined by the sender based on the "intent" of the communication. Currently my company has a half-dozen network addresses, assigned by various network bodies. Most are chartered to provide essentially "universal" service, but the Internet is not. If, as I believe, the Internet DNS exists to make life easier for Internet users then registration of non-Internet networks is merely a matter of convience for the Internet community. If registration is a prerequisite for communication between Internet and non-Internet networks then it becomes a enforcement mechanism. 3. The "what do you care?" point. The %-hack is in the local part anyway. It should only be the concern of the sender and the gateway. If you're not a gateway don't worry, if you are a gateway its your job to worry. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, 1276 N. Warson, St. Louis, MO 63132 Domain: sean@dranet.dra.com, sean%dranet@wupost.wustl.edu UUCP: ...!wugate!wupost!dranet!sean, Voice: (Work) +1 314-432-1100 "I don't speak for anyone else, and they don't speak for me."