Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!apple!agate!shelby!ucscc.ucsc.edu!gorn!filbo From: filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us (Bela Lubkin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: How about some real trivia? Summary: Borland advertised Turbo Pascal in that issue Keywords: borland turbo pascal philippe kahn amigaworld Message-ID: <72.filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us> Date: 27 Oct 89 21:45:48 GMT References: <1989Oct26.213523.919@i-core.UUCP> Organization: R Pentomino Lines: 28 X-Claimer: I >am< R Pentomino! In article <1989Oct26.213523.919@i-core.UUCP> Pete Ashdown writes: >5. What company took out a full page ad in the first Amiga World for their >product, then halted it when another company was blessed by Commodore with a >similar project? Perhaps you're referring to Borland and Turbo Pascal? If so, you've got the questions a bit wrong. Turbo Pascal was advertised in the first TWO issues of AmigaWorld, stating "Shipping first quarter '86!" While part of the reason TP never came out was that Commodore asked MetaComCo to do a Pascal, that wasn't the main reason. Philippe was pissed off at Commodore because he'd been told the machine would initially be shipped at a MUCH lower price than it actually came out at. Since Borland was in the business of selling the best product at the lowest price, he strongly felt that would be the right approach for a great new machine as well. When it turned out that the A1000 cost over $2000 for a decent configuration, he gave up on the machine. He felt the Atari ST was far better priced, if a poorer machine. Regardless of his early thoughts, I think the Amiga is now ripe as a market for Borland (or any other company). If you're still waiting for Turbo Pascal to ship in "First quarter '86", you might want to send mail to Philippe stating your interest. He can be reached via MCIMail; the corresponding Internet address is PhilippeKahn@mcimail.com. One of these years Borland IS going to realize that the market is there; and realize that by advertising a product with a ship date they were making a commitment. Bela Lubkin * * // filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us CompuServe: 73047,1112 @ * * // ....ucbvax!ucscc!gorn!filbo ^^^-VERY slow [months] R Pentomino * \X/ Filbo @ Pyrzqxgl +408-476-4633 & XBBS +408-476-4945