Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ANDREW.CMU.EDU!jm7e+ From: jm7e+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU ("Jeremy G. Mereness") Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Dealers and Sys. 5.0 Message-ID: Date: 22 Oct 89 17:11:42 GMT References: <113300122@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 40 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso\ writes: > And everyone wonders where the "demise of the Apple II" crap comes from. > I guess some people are entitled to their opinion. Here's mine: > > setenv FLAMES = ON > > What (?) > actions are you talking about, the ones that speak louder than words? Could > it be the new GS, the new Operating System, good support in this notesfile > from some good people, and spirit? Probably not. It can only be the reports > of bad Apple II dealers, the fact that, for some reason, Apple is supporting > the Mac, and that the GS doesn't have a 33Mhz 65832 standard? My complaint to Apple is extremely valid: MPW has been developed on the Mac for 5 years; APW for the Apple //GS was thrown together in a few months and is no longer supported. From a users point of view, the GS is not in bgad straits. From a developer's point of view, Apple has been very lax. My complaints involve no HFS or Dos 3.3 FST, no supported native-system development system (Claris uses the MPW X-compiler) nor any plans to make one, no support for high density drives.... At my university, I am surrounded by Macs and the attention that is given them. If Apple showed half the concern it does for the Mac to the Apple //GS, then it would be a much more stable and powerful machine, regardless of its 2.5 MHz processor. I am having enough trouble trying to find a copy of GS/OS 5.0.2., but rest assured I can get the latest Mac system disk in quantity. and this is Not a flame, this is the way it is. I have started a users group to try and make a change, but it is slow going. Apple could help us a lot if it wanted to... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | Jeremy Mereness | Support | Disclaimer: | | jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (internet) | Free | The above represent my | | r746jm7e@cmccvb (Vax... bitnet) | Software | opinions, alone. | | a student at Carnegie Mellon U. | | Void where prohibited. | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------