Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!ginosko!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!apple!mattd From: mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Dealers and Sys. 5.0 Message-ID: <35832@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 23 Oct 89 01:26:47 GMT References: <113300122@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA Lines: 61 In article jm7e+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU ("Jeremy G. Mereness") writes: > >My complaint to Apple is extremely valid: MPW has been developed on >the Mac for 5 years; APW for the Apple //GS was thrown together in a >few months and is no longer supported. > Excuse me, but APW is still entirely supported. In fact, version 2.0 is currently in development, and this fact has been announced since this past May. Although the shell has not been updated, the supporting tools have been consistently updated throughout the GS lifetime, including a new APW tools and interfaces package currently at APDA--tools from APW 2.0 being made available even though APW 2.0 is not completed. >From a users point of view, the GS is not in bgad straits. From a >developer's point of view, Apple has been very lax. My complaints >involve no HFS or Dos 3.3 FST, no supported native-system development >system (Claris uses the MPW X-compiler) nor any plans to make one, no >support for high density drives.... > We had far, FAR many more requests from developers for AppleShare support in GS/OS than we have for either an HFS FST or a DOS 3.3 FST. We have supported those developers who take the time to talk to us as best we can. We also continue to support APW with new tools and languages (such as the Rez compiler). >At my university, I am surrounded by Macs and the attention that is >given them. If Apple showed half the concern it does for the Mac to >the Apple //GS, then it would be a much more stable and powerful >machine, regardless of its 2.5 MHz processor. I am having enough >trouble trying to find a copy of GS/OS 5.0.2., but rest assured I can >get the latest Mac system disk in quantity. > This surprises me. The latest Macintosh System Software is 6.0.4, released just a few weeks ago. 5.0.2 hasn't even gotten out to all the dealers yet; the developers should all have it by now though. >and this is Not a flame, this is the way it is. I have started a users >group to try and make a change, but it is slow going. Apple could help >us a lot if it wanted to... > If you have complaints on the way Apple has supported it's developers (as you say above) that you've sent to Apple and Apple has not responded, I want to hear about them. >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >| Jeremy Mereness | Support | Disclaimer: | >| jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (internet) | Free | The above represent my | >| r746jm7e@cmccvb (Vax... bitnet) | Software | opinions, alone. | >| a student at Carnegie Mellon U. | | Void where prohibited. | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Deatherage, Apple Computer, Inc. | "The opinions expressed in this tome Send PERSONAL mail ONLY (please) to: | should not be construed to imply that Amer. Online: Matt DTS | Apple Computer, Inc., or any of its ThisNet: mattd@apple.com | subsidiaries, in whole or in part, ThatNet: (stuff)!ames!apple!mattd | have any opinion on any subject." Other mail by request only, please. | "So there." -----------------------------------------------------------------------------