Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!microsoft!brianw From: brianw@microsoft.UUCP (Brian Willoughby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Speed.... Summary: TransWarp (II Plus) vs. Zip & Rocket Chip(s) Message-ID: <8194@microsoft.UUCP> Date: 24 Oct 89 20:48:03 GMT References: <8910180053.aa04251@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> Reply-To: brianw@microsoft.UUCP (Brian Willoughby) Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA Lines: 39 In article <8910180053.aa04251@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> UD182050@VM1.NODAK.EDU (Mike Aos) writes: >One question that's bothered me for a while. The TransWarp IIe has a 65C02, or >65802 on it, right? And it make yer 'puter buzz along at what, 3.6Mhz? Then >you've get yer nifty little Zip and Rocket chips that replace the 65C02 on a >IIe (or IIc, for arguements sake). So what happens if you put a 10Mhz Rocket >Chip on a TransWarp? >Just wondering.... > >Osiris Well, the Zip/Rocket Chips IGNORE the 1 MHz clock from the Apple motherboard, so they would still ignore the 3.58 MHz clock from the TransWarp. Matthew Stier had a good point though, the replacement CPU might be able to access memory at 3.58 MHz instead of 1 MHz. But I would think that there would still be problems with the Zip/Rocket trying to synchronize with the TransWarp clock, which is constantly changing as it tries to stay in sync with the 1 MHz clock. While I'm on the subject, I've been meaning to mention that the TransWarp is a good consideration for slot based acceleration. The price is coming down, and you get much more memory with the TransWarp. I own one for my II Plus (clone) and it performs flawlessly with all my software and commercial peripherals (my "custom" slot cards complain a little). I chose the TransWarp because it offers more consistent speedup. The Zip only has 8 K of RAM, so if you access a 32 K array, you will be running at 1 MHz for the most part. I was developing sound sampling hardware for my Plus, so 8 K wasn't enough. Besides, the TransWarp gives my Plus all the 128 K RAM of a //e! The Zip and Rocket limit you to 8 bits also, but the TransWarp has the option for the 16 bit W65C802. Of course, the TransWarp only works on Apples with slots AND the newer replacement processors do run faster than the TransWarp. (Until the next TransWarp is released!) Brian Willoughby UUCP: ...!{tikal, sun, uunet, elwood}!microsoft!brianw InterNet: microsoft!brianw@uunet.UU.NET or: microsoft!brianw@Sun.COM Bitnet brianw@microsoft.UUCP