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From: dnewton@carroll1.UUCP (Dave 'C is cool, but what about LOGO?' Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Computer Aesthetics (Re: 386 vs the TT)
Message-ID: <779@carroll1.UUCP>
Date: 23 Oct 89 18:29:16 GMT
References: <8910210938.AA01163@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> <1989Oct23.073225.10313@agate.berkeley.edu>
Reply-To: dnewton@carroll1.UUCP (Dave 'C is cool, but what about LOGO?' Newton)
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In article <1989Oct23.073225.10313@agate.berkeley.edu> laba-1aj@web-4a.UUCP (John Kawakami) writes:
>The only nice looking interface environment for micros is the Mac's.

   Do you consider the NeXT a micro, seeing as how it's a ton cheaper than a
Compaq 386/33?  I think the NeXT _interface_ blows the Mac's away.

>Now you (John/Jane Q. Tightcode) might be saying "the graphics aren't
>as important as the speed."  Well, I have some news for you: you are
>wrong.  The graphics are the user's view of the machine.  They determine
>how valuable the machine is to the user.  I don't doubt that the Mac's 
>good looks make user think that the $2K she/he just threw down for a
>Plus was actually worth it.  (We can laugh at how much Mac buyers are
>overcharged, but the buyers are satisfied.  

   This is pretty sad.  Great, I got a Mac Plus with its _wonderous_ user
interface.  Unfortunately, it takes a lifetime to re-calc a spreadsheet, find
things, etc.  good grief, a little 8-MHz 68000 simply can't handle the 
interface alone, let alone any applications.  I wouldn't buy a Mac (at least 
not a little one) if my life depended on it.  A IIx approaches, a IIci is
the slowest one I'd buy.  But it's kinda expensive.
   Graphic capability _does_ _not_ determine the usefullness of the machine. If 
this was true, I guess IBM wouldn't even have a machine now, would they?  It
took them up til now to come up with a reasonable graphics standard that's
outdated.  But you'll note the machine is still used a little.
   I guess the old Altair-8800 wasn't useful, 'cuz the only graphics it had
were a bunch o' little red lights.  Forget that it was extremely important in
bringing computers to people.  The old Apple ][, forget it.  No graphics to
speak of.  (Unmatched in its time of course, but ignore that for now.)  And
_please_ forget nearly every straight Unix box _ever_ created, 'cuz most Unix
stuff doesn't have too many graphics.
   Now that I think about it, I guess you're right.  Sorry.  (Sarcasm.)

>&  Live each day as if it were your first

   If I did that, I'd be screaming, getting spanked by someone in white, 
vomiting Pablum, belching, and sleeping all the time.  Hey wait a minnit...

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