Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!uunet!mcsun!ukc!edcastle!hwcs!neil From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: TT vs 386 box and flames Message-ID: <3561@brahma.cs.hw.ac.uk> Date: 24 Oct 89 08:22:11 GMT References: <3962.2541c37a@uwovax.uwo.ca> <1449@syma.sussex.ac.uk> Reply-To: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth) Organization: Computer Science, Heriot-Watt U., Scotland Lines: 90 In article <1449@syma.sussex.ac.uk> grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas) writes: > The CD-ROM drive, to >my knowledge, is still not being sold in the UK - certainly I've not >seen any adverts for it in any ST magazine. (I did hear that some >were on sale in Germany, but I can't confirm that. Anyone?) Nope. But I will say that 'available in Europe' hardly ever means that a product is 'available in the UK' >Now, my guess is that the TT WILL be marketed in the not too distant >future, but that doesn't necessarily follow from its being shown at a >computer exhibition. (Just to emphasise the point, at the PC Show >this year, Atari were again showing Hyperchart, a presentation >graphics program that's a port of Davrelle graphics for the PC. I >first saw this at a show in June 88. The rep from the company that >wrote the program, Soft Image Systems, said the port was finished a >year ago, but Atari UK, who have the marketing rights, have been >procrastinating.) More Atari UK war crimes! What do these people do all day? >Me, I'd settle for TOS 1.4 ROMs at the moment. Me too! > Atari UK is still not >shipping them to dealers and ordinary users. At the PC Show at the >end of September I showed Atari UK's Bob Katz the postings by Ken >Badertscher about availability, and got the nice reply, "Ken works in >R&D, and the difference between R&D and reality is at least four >months." I don't believe that there is much communication between Atari UK and Atari US since Atari UK act so backward. I remember telling them about Madmac and ALN! Ken said that mine and other similar net articles about Atari UK had been sent to the appropriate Atari Corp executives. Shortly after that the support we got from Atari UK doubled! Double nothing! (I'm not getting at you Ken) >Bob K did say the TT would start shipping here about the end of >November. Maybe. I'd love to see it happen, just as I'd love to see >the Stacy in the shops before Christmas. An Atari UK mouthpiece once said that it would cost 1200 quid too. >I managed to crash (= freeze) the TT on show by going into low-res, >opening the 'about..' dialog box to see the 'rainbow' effect and >moving the mouse. Hope that one gets fixed by release time! Ah now that IS Ken's department. >Graham >-- >Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, U of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK > JANET: grahamt@uk.ac.sussex.syma EARN/BITNET: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk > ARPA: grahamt%syma.sussex.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk > UUCP: grahamt@syma.uucp Phone: +44 273 686758 If any other Atari ST developers in the UK reading this newsgroup think they get adequate support from Atari UK will they please identify themselves. I am keen to know what makes you so special in their eyes. Were you a TOS 1.4 beta tester? Have you got an 6/4/89 Rainbow TOS chipset + developer release notes? Have you been offered upgrades to Madmac, ALN or even db? Do you now have S.A.L.A.D, The Pexec cookbook, modern circuit diagrams (not a 1985 520ST), Mega expansion port docs Maths co-processor docs Mega clock docs When did you last get a developers newsletter (whoops sorry, I meant corner stapled photocopy) What do you now know about the STE specific hardware, the Stacey and the TT? Still think you're getting adequate support? +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! DISCLAIMER: Unless otherwise stated, the above comments are entirely my own ! ! ! ! "I think all right thinking people in this country are sick and tired of ! ! being told that ordinary decent people are fed up in this country with ! ! being sick and tired. I'm certainly not and I'm sick and tired of being ! ! told that I am!" - Monty Python ! ! ! ! Neil Forsyth JANET: neil@uk.ac.hw.cs ! ! Dept. of Computer Science ARPA: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk ! ! Heriot-Watt University UUCP: ..!ukc!cs.hw.ac.uk!neil ! ! Edinburgh, Scotland, UK ! +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+