Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!shadooby!ginosko!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!fjcp60!winston From: winston@fjcnet.GOV (Winston M. Llamas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: 386's, TT's, a machine I want Summary: I never said your computer stinks Keywords: TT,386,Atari Message-ID: <212@fjcp60.GOV> Date: 26 Oct 89 03:12:27 GMT References: <211@fjcp60.GOV> <788@carroll1.UUCP> Organization: Federal Judicial Center, Washington, D.C. Lines: 24 I don't think I said that the ST sucked. The gist of my previous post was that even if Atari manages to get the TT out in time, it will take a while (if ever) before a significant software base is developed for it. Yes, Uniterm is a nice program (thank's Simon). But let's get real. I want to use some development tools that just are not available on the ST. Smalltalk-80 is available for the ST, but there does not seem to be any way to get the thing here in the U.S. (yes, I called Parc Place Systems). The thing is, 386 machines are pretty decent machines (okay, so you don't like Intel chips) that are readily available at decent prices. You can get some nice expansion cards for it too. And there are literally tons of software available for the machine (running on at least three operating systems). Yeah, I think we all have done enough bashing on the STE/TT lately, especially since I have yet to see one of the things in a store. I think the $4995 486 system dmewton was talking about is the Cheetah Gold 33. There is a short article on the computer in the November 1989 issue of Byte. Seems like a pretty good deal for the price (4 megs of ram, vga graphics, 60 meg hd). Winston Llamas