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From: anderson@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM (Joel Peter Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Forth in Geos! part 3 of 3
Message-ID: <1655@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM>
Date: 26 Oct 89 14:13:32 GMT
References: <1652@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM> <28443@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
Reply-To: anderson@ncrcce.StPaul.NCR.COM (Joel Peter Anderson)
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Keywords:Forth, Geos, Fun

In article <28443@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> bwildasi@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (Ben Wildasin) writes:
>
>With all the geoDiscussion currently going on here on the net, I thought
>it would be an ideal time to ask some questions that I have been wondering
>about for quite some time. 
>
>1. Could someone post a list of all the languages currently available to
>run under GEOS? 

Here is what >I< know;  I can only speak for Geos on a 64.

LANGUAGE	Implementation		Source		Comments
---------	---------------		----------	-------------
ASSEMBLER:
			Geoprogrammer 		BSW			I haven't used it
											highly regarded/macros
			GeoCope				Shareware/Qlink  Has own editor; supports
											Macros.  
			SpringBoard			Shareware/Qlink	Uses GeoWrite files; no
											macros.  Automatically
											builds Icon and header
											for Geos Appl (i.e. not for
											making DA's).  Lowest featured
											assembler, but (I found) quickest
											to use - only one I have used 
											productively.
BASIC:
			BeckerBasic			Abacus		I haven't used it
											I don't know much; requires
											large interpreter to run -
											said to be a good structured
											BASIC; INFO mag said it was
											'slower than continental drift'
FORTH:
			GeoForth			Shareware/Qlink
								Posted here, by me.
											Nice, nifty and easy mid-range
											language;  easy to interactively
											try out Geos kernal routines.
											(you want more languages? >THAT<
											is EXACTLY what Forth is good for.
											Roll-your-own!)

>2. I am especially interested in Scheme (a lexically-scoped dialect of LISP).
.... Well - see note above on FORTH -  I have read about Forth based Lisps....
maybe you could find one of those?

>
>3. What is the chance that someone could write a virus and put it in a posted
>program or one on a BBS?
No 'chance'. It happens.  Not much on '64s - but Geos moves the Operating
system from ROM to RAM >AND< uses a lot of virtual memory/disk access.  Those
two are common weaknesses exploited by Virii - now that >WE'VE< let the cat out
of the bag YEESH! why did you have to ask this question.

(ON the whole -  the Commodore 8 bit crowd is more honest, kinder and more
virtuous than the other people.... :)   )

> Is there a virus checker available for GEOS?
Not that I know about - you volunteering?

>4. I think that all this stuff warrants creation of a comp.binaries.cbm,
>comp.os.geos, comp.binaries.geos, or some other such thing. Is anyone else
>interested?
	Yes!  Ditto above - you volunteering?  I would be happy
	moderate (but can only check C64 aimed stuff (where I would prefer to
	dwell as it is the 8 bit common coin)). But I will leave the 
	organizing, vote getting and such to other more net savvy heads.



Shalom,
		Joel.

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