Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!venera.isi.edu!raveling From: raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: Re: HP a good platform for SW development??? Keywords: software development tools, availability Message-ID: <10306@venera.isi.edu> Date: 27 Oct 89 19:11:19 GMT References: <875@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Sender: news@venera.isi.edu Reply-To: raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Lines: 38 In article <875@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU>, peter@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Peter Schroeder) writes: > > However, I've had a few frustrating experiences regarding the availability > of software development tools. ... It's my impression that new software is often available sooner on Suns, but that software quality is generally better on HP's for any component available on both that's an HP product. Third party software is often built for Suns first, and is more difficult to port to HP's. This can be blamed on quirks of Sun's Unix environment as easily as on HP's Unix environment, and could easily change if software vendors start using more HP's for initial product development. Although I use and support HP's at ISI, I'm occasionally asked to help with problems, usually X11-related, on Suns. In addition I occasionally make and test some of my own software on Suns before distributing it publicly. In other words my exposure to Suns is limited, but even such limited use shows up minor problems ranging from terminal setup to C compiler bugs. The last time I helped someone trying to get X11 up on a Sun we stumbled through several atrocities of OS behavior that left rebooting as the only recourse. There are a few Sun tools, such as perfmon, that I'd dearly love to have on HP's. In general though, given a choice of an HP or a Sun, I'd pick the HP. Don't forget the others though -- the DECstation 3100 seems like a good platform except for its screwed up keyboard design. Maybe DS3100's or actual MIPS machines would be worth checking out also. ---------------- Paul Raveling Raveling@isi.edu