Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!venera.isi.edu!raveling From: raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: Re: HP a good platform for SW development??? Keywords: software development tools, availability Message-ID: <10309@venera.isi.edu> Date: 27 Oct 89 19:35:03 GMT References: <875@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Sender: news@venera.isi.edu Reply-To: raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Lines: 30 P.S. to last post: Hopefully Sun's new products improve this, but I've never seen a slower X11 display server. When I was using a 9000/350, the Sun 4 monochrome server was about the same speed. We don't have a color Sun 4, a color Solbourne 110 was much slower than the 350. One of our users with a color Sun 3 wanted to use X11 but never used the color server -- he said it was far too slow to be usable. Without actually knowing about Sun's internals, but having seen similar situations elsewhere, I surmise that they may have made a key mistake in the architecture of their frame buffers. If this is the case they will have poured lots of blood, sweat, and tears into their new X11 & News servers, and this will help, but the architecture problem will always handicap their performance. This is more important than it may sound. A paper by someone at IBM a few years ago investigated how interactive response time affected productivity, and found a very significant nonlinear relationship when response time approached and exceeded about 1/2 second -- slow response is magnified into proportionally MUCH lower productivity. ---------------- Paul Raveling Raveling@isi.edu