Xref: utzoo alt.bbs:983 comp.sys.ibm.pc:37211
Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!purdue!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!xanth!ames!amelia!dell
From: dell@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Thomas E. Dell)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: Waffle PC<->Usenet
Message-ID: <3619@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>
Date: 29 Oct 89 20:40:27 GMT
References: <3618@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> <0929891056249703@thelake.UUCP>
Reply-To: dell@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Thomas E. Dell)
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Lines: 45

thelake!steve writes:

>UFgate is/was not the only option. At least two versions of Citadel have been
>running Usenet news and UUCP mail on personal computers for a year or so.
>One is STadel, a shareware product for the Atari ST and IBM PC-clones.
>The other is Citadel-86, a free PC-clone BBS for which Paul Gauthier has
>written a UUPC gateway.

I stand corrected. However, I found neither Ufgate nor Citadel were enough
to suite my needs - DOS *and* Unix, and operation as a single user station
to send/receive news and mail. However, this discussion has come up a number
of times in the last 6 months, and repeatedly the answers have been "ufgate"
and "fsuucp" (or "xbbs" and "akcs" on the other side of things).

The DOS version uses a DCP derived uucico, and that portion *IS* free
(I saw no point in reinventing the wheel). The Unix version of the BBS
interfaces with the usenet {B,C} software and your existing mailer; once
you have B News or C News working it is fairly easy to just plug things in.

>There also are a couple of Un*x versions of Citadel, and I believe one of
>them knows how to speak the Citadel proprietary networking protocol.

I understand that there are a variety of Citadel networking "standards",
some of which are not compatible with others. I am not sure why these 
Citadels on PC (ibm clones, not Atari ST's in this context) are not more
common on the UUCP network - can someone explain?

>I have a strange setup. I run STadel as a personal node -- not as a BBS --
>so that I can keep up with several STadel-networked discussion "rooms." 

I also have a strange setup. I run Waffle as a personal node (vox),
receiving a small number of newsgroups. It also does some of the mail
routing for the domain addressed mail. Also we run a 1300 user BBS
in the Bay Area which receives a larger number of newsgroups & generates
quite a bit more mail traffic.

Waffle is an alternative for those who

  - want a single user UUCP mail/news station
  - need a clean Usenet interface under DOS 
  - run XBBS under Xenix but want something different

             Thomas Dell
 
             root@vox.darkside.com