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From: dell@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Thomas E. Dell)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: Waffle PC<->Usenet
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Date: 30 Oct 89 02:52:35 GMT
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cambler@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Chris Ambler) writes:

> >The DOS version uses a DCP derived uucico, and that portion *IS* free

> I had wished to so this as well, but the 1 window version i tried as WAY
> too slow, and as has been mentioned had error recovery bugs. THIS i understna
> as my current version STILL has a few. If they ever get around to accepting
> Zmodem for uucp as is being discussed, it will make MY life a bit easier...

The later versions use a 7 packet window, and that is what I based the DOS
uucico on. There's a lot of nonsense & error recovery bugs in the DCP/UUPC
packages, and things that are just outright wrong. I believe this release
will fix most of those. Ufgate, gnuucp, early DCP, and AmigaUUCP all use 
the 1 packet window, and that DCP is probably what you looked at.

I wouldn't count on a Z protocol in the near future. You would still have
to deal with all the existing g implementations (nobody can retrofit Z
to thousands of binary-only Unix licenses).

> Really, what i see here is a bunch of projects that do basically the same
> thing, but in a different way. It's not a questions of what's better, but
> of what works for you...

True. There still exist differences in functionality. UUPC for instance,
will not work in slave (dialin) operation, and cannot operate as a nonleaf
site. Uuslave/Ufgate has the 1 packet window, and requires dealing with 
Fido'isms, which is fine if you like numbers instead of a domain-based 
system, I suppose. I cannot comment on Fubar systems UUCP or BBS as I have
not seen working copies (but I have seen copies).

This package is called Waffle. It fixes many of the shortcomings that the 
UUPC interim version had (I threw everything out but the packet driver).
The interim UUCP probably was the most functional package, short of purchasing
UULINK from Lauren Weinstein ($200-300 price range). I only say this because
someone earlier (randall@uvaarpa.virginia.edu, if my memory serves) stated
that UUPC turns your PC into a "fully functional USENET and UUCP node" which
is a kind of misinformation we'd like to avoid here.

                               Thomas Dell