Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!apple!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdahl!key!jsp From: jsp@key.COM (James Preston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Re^3: finder irritations Message-ID: <1173@key.COM> Date: 23 Oct 89 00:26:34 GMT References: Reply-To: jsp@penguin.key.COM (James Preston) Organization: Key Computer Laboratories, Fremont Lines: 44 In article dh07+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Hairston) writes: >on the mac, file copying/moving is almost too simple. even with 10 >folder windows open in the finder on a macplus screen, rounding up the >needed files from the source window (appropriately active in front) and >moving them to some other folder (all you need to do is hit a pixel in >that window) is childs' play. window management is the key here . . . Different strokes for different folks. Not everyone does things the way you do, and trying to tell someone that his complaint is not valid because he can change his method of operation and thereby remove the irritation is not acceptable. I don't like to clutter my screen with unnecessary windows. I don't normally open a folder unless it is absolutely necessary. To copy a file from folder A to folder B, it is not required that you open folder B, only that you can see it. So your "solution" ("all you need to do is hit a pixel in that window") just doesn't work for me. It is simply too easy and too common to be in a situation where I can see the file I want to copy, I can see the destination folder, I click on the file and watch in annoyance as the destination folder disappears. Your point about window size and "look at how ResEdit does it" are equally invalid for me. I like to avoid the need to scroll whenver possible, and I also like normal-sized icons. Therefore, my windows tend to be on the large side. I agree with your earlier point (deleted to save world-wide transmission costs) that command line interfaces are not better. I think it's unfortunate that the original poster brought that in because I think it only clouds the issue. My point is that, while the Mac interface is good and usually better than command lines, it is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. Folks like you who seem to be saying, "Oh what are you complaining about? _I_ don't have any problem with it, and anyway it's better than MS-DOS" are not being particularly helpful. I would like to think that, in this forum, we could avoid both MS-DOS bashing and Mac bashing. That someone could say, "Hey, I have trouble with such-and-such" or "I get annoyed by this" and that the responses would be suggestions of helpful cdevs, inits, utilities, etc. (as some here have indeed done on this topic), or that we might get enough of a consensus that a feature is cumbersome, annoying, etc. that word might just possibly get back to Apple so that they could make it better. I hope that this doesn't sound like I'm flaming Mr. Hairston, because that is not my intent. I'm sure that he meant to be helpful. I'm only trying to point out that saying "You should change the way you do things" is not always the best solution. --James Preston